The Sprint Review Is the Only Time at Which Stakeholder Feedback Is Taken Into Account

In which meetings the Cardinal Stakeholders are allowed to participate? Aren't The Key Stakeholders immune in the planning?

Last post 03:21 pm June 3, 2021

past Daniel Wilhite

21 replies

02:17 pm February 7, 2018

Howdy all, this is my 1st mail service in the forum :)

I was testing my knowhow using the PSM test online http://mlapshin.com/index.php/scrum-quizzes/psm-learning-way/

and one question is

"In which meetings the Key Stakeholders are allowed to participate?"

And surprisingly information technology seems the key stakeholders are allowed only in the review, if I get well the reply:

"The Key Stakeholders are allowed to participate just in the Sprint Review meeting. However, whatever member of the Scrum Squad can collaborate with them any time."

That sounds a bit odd to me, while from time to time I see key stakeholders participate in plannings.
Maybe it'due south simply a fashion the question/respond is written, because i cannot notice anything in the guide referring to that.

What'due south your stance?

Thanks :)

02:27 pm February seven, 2018

I have to say that in a later question is:

"Select the two meetings in which people outside the Scrum Squad are allowed to participate."

and the two valid answers are:

"Sprint Review"

"Sprint Planning", with this explanation:

• The Development Team may invite other people to nourish the Sprint Planning in society to provide technical or domain advice.

Then the Dev Squad could invite the key stakeholders if needed to provide technical or domain advice.

Then in conclusion:

central stakeholders are non allowed to bring together the planning except if the dev team thinks information technology'southward needed.

I'm right?

thanks :)

10:28 pm February 7, 2018

Development Teams and stakeholders can arrange to see whenever they want during a Sprint. Scrum does not deny professionals their options. What the framework does do is to establish a minimal fix of rules. For instance information technology tells you who ought to nourish particular Scrum events and for what purpose. A minimum caste of focus tin thus be assured regarding certain essential concerns.

05:04 am Feb viii, 2018

Howdy David,

Welcome to the forum!

If your goal is to pass the PSM exams, it is worth beingness cautious of tests written by other people. They may aid to challenge your agreement; only in my feel, they don't lucifer the quality of the Scrum.org open assessments.

Specially, spotter out for answers that are not supported past the Scrum Guide, and exist aware that the author of this quiz does non ever utilize the same terminology that yous would detect in the actual assessment.

"In which meetings the Key Stakeholders are allowed to participate?"

I tin tell straight away that this is non a Scrum.org question, considering Scrum.org would not refer to the Scrum events as meetings. Using the correct terminology is of import, and then there are sometimes clues in the official assessments, where employ of non-standard terminology helps you quickly dominion out some of the incorrect answers.

02:32 pm February 8, 2018

Cheers Ian and Simon, to answer Simon question: I'm scrum master for nearly 4 years with CSM certificate, but I sometimes feel I need to hardening my knowledge, especially because from time to time there is something that popups out of my cognition and I need to investigate and learn of, with a special thinking on side effects.
I also see some team cutting corner here and there. So basically without losing anything from my feel I want to human action a bit more firmly and be a referring indicate for the team about agile and scrum.

I'yard exercising with some complimentary PSM tests with diverse degree, I can say yet now I go benefits from that.
:)

10:sixteen pm March 24, 2019

Dears,

I had the aforementioned ambiguity, as i review the guide, in club to answer the mentioned questions:

ane. Production Possessor can invite Key stakeholders to attend the Sprint Review, so this is i of the answers.

2. In Sprint planning, Evolution team may also invite other people to nourish to provide technical or domain suggest. (for me, information technology means if its mentioned clearly that evolution squad invited primal stakeholder for sprint planning every bit technical or domain adviser, so yes its is also the answer, otherwise will assume dart planning will run with scrum team)

I know this may only assist to reply the tests, considering generally the best description in what given past Mr.Ian.

Information technology volition be pleasure to accept your comments.

02:fourteen pm Apr iv, 2019

Great Discussion here!

Later on reading scrum guide and taking PSM I felt there are many things that just not practical and I don't agree with such as questions above.  other question I was thrown away by was who must attend daily stand?  co-ordinate to scrum guide it'due south only development team but let'south be honest without Product owner and Scrum Main is it actually productive meeting?

want to hear more about it from you all!

Nayna

07:59 pm Apr 4, 2019

who must nourish daily stand?  co-ordinate to scrum guide it's just evolution team merely let'south be honest without Product owner and Scrum Master is it really productive meeting?

Nayna, the Scrum Guide is very clear that the Daily Scrum is a meeting strictly for the Development Team to:

• program work for the adjacent 24 hours
• inspect progress toward the Sprint Goal
• inspect how progress is trending toward completing the work in the Sprint Backlog
• understand how information technology intends to work together as a self-organizing team to attain the Sprint Goal
• understand how information technology intends to create the anticipated Increment by the end of the Sprint

Why do you lot believe this cannot be accomplished without the presence of the rest of the Scrum Team (Product Owner, Scrum Main)?

08:30 pm Apr iv, 2019

@Nayna,

In improver to everything that @Timothy said, allow me point a couple of passages from the Scrum Guide.

Department on Daily Scrum

The Daily Scrum is a 15-minute fourth dimension-boxed event for the Evolution Team.

The Development Team uses the Daily Scrum to inspect progress toward the Sprint Goal and to inspect how progress is trending toward completing the work in the Sprint Excess.

The Daily Scrum is an internal meeting for the Development Squad. If others are nowadays, the Scrum Main ensures that they do not disrupt the meeting.

If the items @Timothy expressed and the 3 higher up statements are satisfied, I fail to see how it couldn't be a productive gathering without anyone else involved.  Yes, it says the Scrum Master ensures no disruption. But that does not mean you participate and in reality y'all would be a disruption if you did participate.

I volition besides call out this part of the same section of the Scrum Guide.

The construction of the coming together is gear up by the Development Team and tin can be conducted in different ways if information technology focuses on progress toward the Sprint Goal.

The Development Team sets the construction. If they choose to invite the Production Possessor and Scrum Master it is their decision. But it besides upwards to the Development Team to decide how those individuals are involved. The keys are that "it focuses on the progress toward the Sprint Goal" and is used to plan their work until the next Daily Scrum. I have worked with some Scrum Teams that actually encourage an audience of anyone interested in the piece of work they are doing. Merely they also make it clear to everyone in the audience that they are non there to provide whatsoever input. It is not audience participation. The audition is there for viewing much like an audience for a news programme.

08:34 pm October two, 2019

@Timothy,

The Scrum Guide is very clear that the Daily Scrum attended non only by DT members:  "If others are present, the Scrum Master ensures that they practise non disrupt the meeting". So "others" are allowed  and the DS.

There are many scenarios  when PO attendance at DS is beneficial as  "Daily Scrums improve communications, eliminate other meetings, identify impediments to development for removal, highlight and promote quick decision-making, and better the Development Team's level of knowledge." Come across examples below.

So there should not be a dominion banning PO  from attention DS.

Do examination questions trying to differentiate "attendance" from "participation" ? Such linguistic departure is outside of the Scrum Guide/Framework scope.

Is there a oversight of Open PSPO exam questions?

Examples:

1. DT discovered "the work turns out to be different than the Evolution Team expected, they interact with the Product Owner to negotiate the scope of Sprint Excess within the Sprint". And then if PO in attendance they could quickly bank check and schedule post DS meeting.

2. DT reports Sprint BI done, asks PO to confirm and checks PO availability for the demo and his feedback on inviting stakeholders

3. DT is looking for pulling in PBI-s and asks for PO feedback "Ensuring the Development Team understands items in the Product Backlog to the level needed"

iv. DT does the piece of work  delegated by PO  on "Optimizing the value of the work the Development Squad performs " and asks for PO feedback

five. PO learns that DT identified impediments and provides immediate feedback (every bit domain expert) as another PO's ST had similar impediment resolved just earlier DS.

09:10 pm Oct 2, 2019

@Yakov

You may have misread my postal service.   It was in response to Nayna'south mail questioning whether the Daily Scrum had whatsoever value if it were just attended past the Development Squad.   It certainly does, as it is actually their meeting.

I do feel there is value in having the PO bachelor for consultation during the Daily Scrum, around many of the reasons you listed.   Many of the teams I've served have had their PO in attendance during the Daily Scrum.

Ultimately however, it must be the decision of the Development Squad regarding outside omnipresence during their Daily Scrum.   Information technology'southward their meeting - it's their call.   Also, opportunities for additional communication and collaboration betwixt the DT and the PO should be identified and provided exterior of the Daily Scrum as needed.   The Scrum Chief should exist ready to help if the remainder of the Scrum Squad needs help to support these additional touch points.

02:56 am October 3, 2019

If the PO or others feel aneed to nourish the Daily Scrum, find out why. There are another 23 hours and 45 minutes available for them to collaborate with the team. The Daily Scrum is fifteen minutes out of what should be a busy twenty-four hour period for the Development Team to stand aside and refocus on meeting the Sprint Goal.

11:47 am Oct 3, 2019

I found it valuable to attend the Daily Scrum every bit a Product Owner and I believe the team I worked with at the time did also.

It gave them an opportunity to not only plan for the day but address any impediments or questions I could assist with. We as well fix time to negotiate telescopic when things weren't going as planned. If they ran into an issue and we were able to resolve information technology by negotiating a simpler solution this ultimately inverse their program for the next 24 hours.

That being said, it's of import for the Scrum Primary and Development Team to work with the Product Owner (or other stakeholders) to understand how they tin add together value to the Daily Scrum. If you have someone who is constantly irresolute things or dominating the conversation this effect could become quite dysfunctional.

03:xvi pm October 3, 2019

Hello David,

Welcome to the forum!

As everyone suggested please exist cautious about the 3rd party mock tests. Make sure you refer back to Scrum Guide every at present and and so and focus on eliminating wrong answers and emphasizing on why they are incorrect.  Information technology volition help you better understand the Scrum framework and prepare you lot for handling catchy situations. Practiced Luck!

Referring to Nayna'south post, in my opinion, I have a feeling and an experience that many organizations are using the Scrum framework as another 'system' of managing projects and teams. Rather than focusing on the Scrum values of delivery, courage, focus, openness, and respect (which are often brushed bated) and delivery using transparency, inspection, and adaptation are seriously existence neglected for the sake of short-term gains.

Maybe the dev squad and the scrum master both need serious training in Scrum Values if there is a sentiment that Dev Team cannot be productive in the events they own on their own.

Even though we all come up from different cultural backgrounds, it is important that we emphasize that "respect is a two-way street" is a universal value.

11:23 am November 29, 2019

Hi Guys, Can you lot respond me for this questions?

In scrum, a chicken is:

select one:-

a. Product Owner

b. Scrum Master

c. Apart from team, Scrum Principal and the Product Possessor

d. Team

e. All of the listed Options

12:55 pm November 30, 2019

In scrum, a craven is:

On a farm, it'due south usually either a Developer or the Increment.

Just jokes aside, I assume you're referring to the pigs and chickens metaphor, and in that location's a expert caption about why those terms no longer appear in the Scrum Guide: https://www.scrum.org/resources/chickens-and-pigs

04:53 pm Dec 30, 2019

@Simon, OMG Good riddance. Existence read scrum guide twice, it would exist horrific to see such question popup :D

04:19 pm Oct eight, 2020

I believe we should always remember the Active Manifesto, which conspicuously mentions "Individuals and interactions over processes and tools". So I think as per PSM if we have to select multiple options nosotros can go for Sprint Planning along with Sprint Review, Just if nosotros have to select the best option then information technology is just "Sprint Review".

01:52 pm Feb ane, 2021

Hello all,

Post-obit the discussions above I get a fiddling confused. I am preparing for the scrum product manager after two attempts without pass.

As fas as I know scrum.org merely provides the 30 questions which are less hard and so the real examn.

Following the word virtually the scrum events, what are the original thoughts regarding providing advice and participation? in other words: is providing advice likewise participation?

I am likewise following test exams on: https://mlapshin.com/index.php/scrum-quizzes/sm-real-manner/ which has sometimes different views then the scrum guide and the professional product owner volume.

I hope someone tin give my support with this question?

03:55 pm February ii, 2021

My beginning piece of advice is to end using the test exams on mlapshim.com.  That site has come up in many discussions and it usually has misleading questions or answers.  Stick to the resources that are provided or recommended by scrum.org.

If you want to be able to pass the exam, finish trying to find correct answers to questions and kickoff to sympathise the reason an respond is correct.  Learn the theory instead of trying to memorize the facts.

Each Scrum consequence has specific reasons for existing.  In each one at that place are specific outcomes sought.  To understand the deviation betwixt participation and providing communication, wait at the outcome.  For example, Sprint Planning'southward outcome is the Dart Backlog.  The Sprint Backlog is owned by the Developers.  And then the just participants are the Developers.  However the Product Owner provides advice and data related to the Product Backlog Items so that the Developers can make educated decisions on which ones to pull in.  A stakeholder may be invited to provide some advice and information simply they are non participating in the outcome of the Consequence.

Study the Scrum Guide and empathize the reasons/theory behind each affair that is described.  That volition non only help you pass the certification exams merely it will also brand you lot a much better Scrum practitioner.

09:55 pm June 2, 2021

Hi Everyone!

I've noticed that the following part was removed from Scrum Guide 2020: "The Daily Scrum is an internal meeting for the Development Team. If others are present, the Scrum Principal ensures that they exercise not disrupt the meeting."

Does it hateful that Stakeholders aren't immune to attend the Daily Scrum now?

Thanks for your replies.

03:21 pm June 3, 2021

If yous read dorsum through the responses to this question and read the Scrum Guide, yous should notice that the only required attendees for the Daily Scrum are the Developers.  That is considering the Daily Scrum is an consequence for the Developers to program the work for the mean solar day based upon what has been done and learned in the by.  The Developers are the merely participants.

The statement y'all mentioned from previous versions was to assistance enforce the idea that the only active participants are the Developers.  Equally I mentioned previously that some teams volition accept audiences but they should non interrupt or participate in the Daily Scrum. I advocate to have a menstruation of time after the Daily Scrum where larger discussions tin occur if there is a feeling among the Scrum Team that information technology is needed.  And let's exist honest, why is it and then hard to allow a group of people have 15 minutes on their ain to discuss and program their day?

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